Had Enough

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  Info please re Dateline airing

  by lauralisa in

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  i understand that there will be a "dateline" show about the wtbs or whatever it's referred to now airing in the near future.. i'm clueless about tv but would like to see it; could anyone please give me details about what it will be about and when it will air?

  thank you ..... ll.

  it's just water.... it's just water from a stranger's tear.

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  Yes all:

  Airing to a larger audience is what Dateline wants to do. The fall, when the viewing numbers will be larger will be alot more effective and that is what Dateline wants....to be effective.

  Yes I was disappointed at first, but whatever it takes to make this the most productive exposure possible, is the ultimate goal...so that the WTS feels the hardest blow possible. So we'll all have to be patient and trust that everyone involved has the right motives for exposing this dreadful situation...first and foremost...the protection and vindication of the children...and...the bringing of the WTS to their knees to prevent this from happening anymore.

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  im new here.

  by flamethrower in

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  i just left the jws.

  freedom!

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  Had Enough

  OK...I realize you all have been around longer in the ex-JW world than I have, and are more experienced in spotting the trolls....What did I miss?

  How did you all spot this one that quickly? I'm curious...please fill me in.

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  Making a Difference!

  by Amazing in

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  some may ask themselves why they post on forums such as this one.

  they may wonder what compels them to do so.

  you may wonder what causes others to keep at this so frequently.

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  Had Enough

  Hello Amazing:

  I so appreciated reading your post so much.

  Why do I continue to come here?

  Since I started coming here, I've been learning things about the history of the borg's beginning teachings that I probably never would have found out on my own. I was too ingrained by the typical controlling methods of the borg to even think of searching out if they were right. I totally, unquestioningly believed. That which I couldn't and wouldn't follow (such as shunning) left me feeling defective, rebellious, unworthy of God's spirit.

  Reading 'Crisis of Conscience' was the beginning of the opening up of my eyes. I realized there was so much wrong with the borg and then since coming here, I have read so many others express these same feelings, I could see that it wasn't "just me"...maybe I wasn't just rebellious and unworthy.

  So the first and foremost thing bringing me here and keeping me here is the knowledge I have gained. And every day it seems, there is something more brought to my attention that I would have never dreamed the GB would have done to deliberately mislead us in creating their own "doctrines" or rules. It truly flabbergasts me to find out where they have twisted someone's words to mislead us to believe these people agree with the borg on "blood", or "creation" and others.

  It has been an amazing outlet for me to formulate my thoughts and to be able to express my emotions that have been on a wild rollarcoaster ride ever since I started on my road of discovery. To be able to have an opinion, or question, and to have freedom to express it is gratifying and therapeutic. That freedom is intoxicating.

  Then a building-up of my self-esteem, from the borg-induced brow-beatings, has resulted from the interchange of thoughts with posters here and "meeting" others in the same boat as I am in.

  It also encourages me so much to "hear" someone express their appreciation and gratitude for something I've said. That just urges me on to keep on digging away at learning more myself. I want to be able to help anyway I can to make others that are "lurking" here to feel the same freedom I feel.

  What also keeps me coming is not revenge but a sincere hope that the borg will have to face up to #1.their deliberate misleading by their "couching" or twisting words which can only be called what it is...LIES...and to...#2.the lives lost as a result of their rules on blood and neutrality...and to...#3.the lives ruined by their dogmatic stand on protecting molesters {for only one reason..to protect their image}

  I hope we'll all feel the gratification of seeing a profound affect on the borg, like a significant drop in numbers, as a result of the exposure of their skeletons on the internet and in the media.
  
  I have a long way to go to overcome the waves of absolute sadness that overcome me when I think about, or talk about, how deeply it hurts to know how many years of my life has been wasted believing and trusting so naively in the purity and holiness of our self-proclaimed "spirit-directed caretakers".....BUT I am so grateful for the people here, like you, who are committed to helping so many of us with information about the deceitful, deliberately misleading teachings of the borg.

  I know I have so much life to live yet and want others to experience that freedom too.

  Had Enough

  PS Amazing I enjoyed meeting you at the BRCI and thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings with us there.
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  Good Bye Everyeone

  by proplog2 in

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  i am against official censorship.

  i feel it is each individuals responsibility to walk away from groups that you find offensive.

  although i am an a-theist i am not a-moral.. in greek mythology you have prometheus and epimetheus.

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  Had Enough

  Hello Proplog2:

  I hope you change your mind and stay...we will welcome that for sure. You have an interesting outlook and opinion on matters and your website reflects that as well.

  I'm here to learn, for one thing, because I find I'm having to un-learn all the garbage my mind had been shaped with and to re-learn so many things I never even thought I would question, as well.

  I'm here also to help anywhere I can with sharing what I have experienced in the hope that someone will find something useful or some support from finding they're not alone in their troubles.

  To do all this, I have to sift through what I feel is time-wasting for me, as the time I can spend here is limited, so I have to be selective. Ego-wars do not interest me. I will sometimes skim through some of these threads, and have found some valid, solid, mature points made but I rapidly pass by the name-calling slurs that do no-one any good and can only cause harm to someone who might be mustering up the courage to post.

  Sooooo.... my point is...I hope you, as a solid thinking person, can stay on and help us out with your insight as you have shown on your website. From a quick glance, it looks to me like it has alot of merit and solid grounding.

  Please reconsider...or if you must go, please just take a rest from here and come back again.

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  Have a great Canada Day!

  by ozziepost in

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  g'day you guys from canada, (alright to call you canucks?).

  i see from my international style diary that you're having a holiday today.

  so here in the far flung parts of the southern climes, we'd like to wish all our canadian fellow posters all the best for today.

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  Had Enough

  Hello there Ozzie:

  Thanks for thinking of us Canucks. Yea it's OK to call us that...we do it ourselves.

  I've always felt embarrassed for not showing appreciation for such a free country as this. I love living here...even the winter snow....although where I am (the southern most tip of Canada) our winters here are not like what many non-Canadians picture.

  As for Canada Day celebrations...some areas have a parade (our little place even has one, but it only takes about 5 minutes to pass by you)..and some areas have firework displays. We mostly just enjoy having a day off work and go to the beach or some entertainment park like Canada's Wonderland or a Water Park place (big waterslide tubes, artifical wave pond etc).

  As a Jdub I remember going to watch a parade and the fireworks with other Jdubs, but of course we weren't celebrating anything now were we. (just like having a big turkey with visiting family or friends on Thanksgiving or Christmas wasn't celebrating was it)

  Cheers
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  Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty

  by Maximus in

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  here's another example of how the society uses selective quotations.

  (see the thread blood, the watchtower and deceit for two other examples, carefully documented.

  under the title "is it wrong to pronounce gods name?

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  Had Enough

  Hello Maximus:

  How do I feel about this? Outraged doesn't even cover it!

  I was one who, time and time again, said those words: "No one else knows and uses the name Jehovah".

  And why? Because that's what we were told to over and over, and why wouldn't we believe these quotes taken out of context and misapplied to misrepresent the truth? I was taught to trust the org. right from my birth on so why would I even think of questioning their "knowledge and spirit direction"?

  I get so angry and frustrated when I read the exposure of their misrepresented quotes like this one, and in the Creation book and...just how many more are there?

  Yes I'm outraged at them for fooling me and making a fool of me, and for the hooks they have in my family who would turn a deaf ear to this info just like they've been taught to....and also for all the others who's lives are being wasted being controlled by these twisted men.

  However I am and will be eternally thankful to all of you out there who have found these proofs of their deceitfulness out and had enough love for us to bring this to our knowledge and to continue to stay here to help the "newly departed" from the org. You present facts to us that we can check out and see for ourselves so that no one can say that we are being mislead by lies.

  Thank you

  Had Enough

  ps: as for Bruce Metzgar...I wish he would sue the WTS for misapplying his quotes and make a big public stink about it too!
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  POLL - Elders vs Molesters

  by Amazing in

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  i wish to conduct a legitimate poll, or at least as legitimate as it can get on this forum.

  unless you are or were a jw, please do not respond or make comments.

  please simply give an answer, without extended comments.

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  Hello Amazing:

  I have to say 0. I never heard of this kind of thing until silentlambs blew the lid off this can of worms.

  My elder father and elder ex-husband both were of the rare tight-lipped elders who kept judicial info from their families.

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  Complement a Poster

  by Black Man in

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  here's your chance to complement a poster whose posts make you think, make you mad, make you laugh, make you cry.

  i usually find something that i dig in everybody's post around these parts.

  but i'll single out some peeps in particular.

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  Had Enough

  Hey Hippikon:

  We appreciate you..many of us have said "and there's many more I know I'm leaving out or that I read all the time"

  I always read your posts and in fact I brought to your attention in a post to you, when you turned "Master".

  As I'm reading all these I'm seeing how many I left out too, so I agree, all have a great contribution and I think I'd be in a rubber room somewhere if I didn't have this outlet and source of fun, encouragement and a wealth of info.

  You know when someone became a JW and they always said "I learned more about the Bible in a short while with the JWs than I did in all my years of going to church"? Well I've learned more truth about the JWs and the Bible in just a short while here than I did in all my years as a JW.

  Thanks to all of you!!!!

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  BRCI Conference?? Tell me more...

  by Jeremy Bravo in

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  i just noticed that there's a brci conference (the one that amazing says he will attending) in the city i live in.. could anyone tell me exactly what a bfci conference is?.

  i would be even more grateful if anyone could tell me where in waterloo it is (it's likely at uw or wlu).. if it would be of benefit to me, i'm sure i would want to attend.. thanks,.

  jeremy.

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  Hi Peter:

  It starts at 9:am tomorrow and no registration required. Anyone can come and go as you please. No guilt trips to stay in your seat etc.

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  BRCI Conference?? Tell me more...

  by Jeremy Bravo in

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  i just noticed that there's a brci conference (the one that amazing says he will attending) in the city i live in.. could anyone tell me exactly what a bfci conference is?.

  i would be even more grateful if anyone could tell me where in waterloo it is (it's likely at uw or wlu).. if it would be of benefit to me, i'm sure i would want to attend.. thanks,.

  jeremy.

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  Had Enough

  Hi outnfree:

  Do you have email? If so, would you email me and I'll reply to your address with an answer to your question. If not, let me know here.

  Thanks

  Had Enough